Posts in Category: Garel/LeRun/Max/AXL

Changing LeRun/Garel/Max Skatebike Seat (Saddle)

Jon N. from the UK wrote this article about changing the seat on his Max Skatebike to a unicycle seat. My personal skatebike is a Minson which uses a traditional seat post and seat. The Garel/LeRun/Max skatebikes use a unicycle like seat connection.
BTW: A unicycle seat is often referred to as a unicycle saddle.
Rich 

The skatebikes used in the photos are a black Max skatebike and a blue LeRun, the LeRun and the original Max seat are the same design and are shown for comparison purposes. When I purchased my Max skatebike from eBay the seat post was too short for me to ride in a comfortable position. The post was 250mm long which once you’ve taken into account the section required to go into the frame it did not leave a lot the space required for a person just over 6 foot tall like myself. I had hoped to simply replace the seat post with a longer one and all would be fine, however when I examined the fixing of the post to the seat I realised the seat itself had 3 shafts for nuts and were positioned in a triangular shape. I searched online and couldn’t find a replacement seat post that had triangular hole positioning so I decided to replace the seat too. The fixings on most bicycle seat posts are designed to work at an angle and for a skatebike it needs to be straight up which is how I arrived at a unicycle seat and post.

I used unicycle.com who had a good selection of seats and posts along with other supplies. The seat post width for my Max is 25.4mm (Lerun and Garel models use 25mm), I went for a 350mm long post and a zebra print seat for a total of £30. There are other colour variations out there but as soon as I saw this I knew it was the one for me! As you can see there are differences in the designs of the original seat and the unicycle seat, namely the width is reduced on the unicycle seat and the curve angle is increased on this ‘freestyle’ seat (flat unicycle seats are available on the website too). The unicycle seat is firmer than the original from the Max and is fixed to the seat post via 4 shafts in a rectangular formation and allows for tweaks on the angle of the seat rather than the fixed position of the original seat. The grab section at the front (there is also a grab section at the rear of the unicycle seat) is incorporated into the seat design rather than the ring design of the original, this can take a little getting used to at first if you’ve been using a ring for a long time. When I first put the unicycle seat on and went out on it I really noticed the width difference compared to the original and was concerned that it would take something away from the comfort aspect however I found it is easier to understand where my body weight is in terms of positioning. The original seat is wider and in comparison feels almost too wide for me now and there’s less clarity in knowing where your centre of gravity is, however the original is more comfortable and has more of a shallow sideways C profile.  From a top down view the unicycle seat is an hourglass shape which helps position the rider and the original is a teardrop shape. I would suggest trying one out in a shop if you can, I’m average build and a unicycle seat may not be comfortable for everyone.

Out of the two seats I would say I prefer the unicycle seat as I find it better for comfort, response and firmness. The original seat works as a seat but there are other options out there and it might change how you feel on a skatebike and grow your confidence to try more moves or go for longer distances so why not give it a try?

Another change I made to the Max was to the seat post clamp and removing the quick release system. I decided a fixed seat post clamp would be better for me for when I lock it up outside a shop I don’t have to worry someone can pinch the seat, plus it looks slicker to me and matches in terms of colour. It was a simple case of taking off the quick release fitting and popping the fixed seat clamp post (I sprayed it black as it was chrome – 28.6mm seat post clamp for Max/Lerun/Garel) and tightening it accordingly.

Jon N. – UK

Skateboard Truck Bushings Tips

Most skatebikes use a skateboard truck up front for steering. There is nothing special about the truck except the choice of wheels and bushings. Assuming you are looking at a Minson or a Garel/LeRun bike, you have 30+ year old rubber in the truck. The bushings and pivot bushing will be hard as a rock and the bearings probably need cleaning and greasing.

If you need to replace the truck on your skatebike, there are several factors you need to consider.

AXL Skatebike

Worlds Of Wonder files for a US Trademark for “AXL Skatebike” on 1990-05-29

Worlds Of Wonder, Inc.

4209 Technology Drive, Fremont, CA 94538, USA
Serial Number: 74063815

Timeline
1990-04-19: AXL Skatebike Press Release distributed
1990-05-29: Application Filed
1992-07-07: Published for Opposition
1993-03-30: Abandon
1993-03-30: Status: Dead/Abandoned

AXL Skatebikes appear to be a rebranded MAX Skatebike. A chain guard is added and the labels are changed. Both use a 12″ plastic wheel.

LeRun Skatebike

The LeRun (French for The Run) skatebike was made in Malaysia by LeRun Industries. facebook.com/lerunmalaysia/

Lerun began its operations back in the 1970s, pioneering the manufacturing of mountain bikes for the local market. Lerun’s ‘claim to fame’ is the Skatebike – the one-wheel unicycle which was launched back in the late 80s. The introduction of the Skatebike created a cult following amongst youngsters and henceforth catapulted the Lerun Unicycle up to the top of every kid’s wish list. Since then, the Lerun brand has become a household name.

Headquartered at Puchong, Selangor, the Lerun head office controls all distribution and sales operations for its diverse portfolio of bicycles. The product range that is offered includes MTB, BMX, Tandem Bike, Folding Bike, City Bike and Racing Bikes with wheel sizes ranging from 16 inches to 26 inches, which are marketed under the popular “Lerun” and “Polygon” brands.

A pristine LeRun before the MTV branding.

LeRun Operator’s Manual

MTV / LeRun Skatebike Agreement / Commercials

Feb 8, 1988 – MTV announced their first licensing agreement, the MTV LeRun. The pact provides for an advertising campaign on MTV with retail sales to begin in Fall 1988.

More Photos of Building my Electrified MTV LeRun Skatebike

In the My DI-WHY Electrified MTV LeRun Skatebike we were introduced to an eLeRun. The builder is Braxton M. from Michigan. He filled me in on braking.

There is some braking due to the motors natural resistance but overall it’s more like a skateboard than a bike. The speed is a max of about 13mph (my max comfortable speed anyway lol) so a quick step off is easy enough to do if needed but you get used to the natural motor braking with time. The bottom bracket is still in place, there is two polycarbonate 3D printed pegs pressed on. Eventually I’m going to replace the old brushed motor for a brushless one for a bit more speed and efficiency. In addition, stronger regen braking will be added with a different motor controller and I may add a manual brake at some point. Battery pack is custom built with around 30 miles of range per charge and there is an integrated 12v converter to run the lights on the sides of the battery case.

Braxton M. from Michigan

Braxton included some interesting images from the build.

I am impressed.

My DI-WHY Electrified MTV LeRun Skatebike


Here is something interesting. wer2000 on Reddit electrified an MTV LeRun. As the bottom bracket, cranks and pedals were replaced with stationary pegs, there are no brakes. One solution could be to add a brake like Minson uses with a brake handle under the seat. The speed control is mounted on the seat handle.

In his words

I had a geared 350-watt motor laying around and a 500 watt-hour battery used on a different project and decided to have some fun with them since they were just sitting around. It started out as more of a joke but its honestly quite fun to ride. It rides relatively stable and the max speed (~13 mph) is more than enough given the circumstances. As far as I know, no one else has done something like this so I guess I can at least say that I’ve done something unique?

How do you control the speed?

Leaning for turning and I’ve got a little vertical thumb throttle cleverly attached to the little hand grip in the front of the bike.

Motor mount is the only frame addition. Motor and controller were just laying around and the battery is from a different ebike I built awhile ago.

Most of it is in part to 3D printed parts. Exterior of the battery module is printed and even the foot pegs (with a super high density that is). The black coat also helps in cleaning up the welding motor mount though as my welding is certainly not top tier.

Read more and a picture spread on the construction …

Rodeocycle Trademark


On Thursday, December 17, 1981, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for RODEOCYCLE. The USPTO has given the RODEOCYCLE trademark serial number of 73342102. The current federal status of this trademark filing is CONTINUED USE NOT FILED WITHIN GRACE PERIOD, UN-REVIVABLE. The RODEOCYCLE trademark is filed in the category of Vehicles and Products for locomotion by land, air or water . The description provided to the USPTO for RODEOCYCLE is Bicycles and Structural Parts Therefor.

Word mark: RODEOCYCLE
Status/Status Date: CONTINUED USE NOT FILED WITHIN GRACE PERIOD, UN-REVIVABLE
4/26/1989
Serial Number: 73342102
Filing Date: 12/17/1981
Registration Number: 1217470
Registration Date: 11/23/1982
Goods and Services: Bicycles and Structural Parts Therefor
Type Of Mark: TradeMark
Published For Opposition Date: 8/31/1982
Last Applicant/Owner: Ateliers de la Motobecane S.A., Pantin F-93502
Mark Drawing Code: Drawing with Words in Stylized form (25% Redcution of drawing size)

Canadian Trademark

Application number: 0479557
Filed: 1981-12-11
Abandoned: 1983-01-29
Registrant: ATELIERS DE LA MOTOBECANE, UNE SOCIETE ANONYME, 16, RUE LESAULT, 93502 PANTIN, FRANCE

Motobécane Rodeocycle

Yves Garel’s skatebike patent was filed in 1981. Garel was from France, as was the Motobecane Rodéocycle. My guess is this was the first commercial version of his patent.

Motobécane Rodeocycle Owner’s Manual

Motobécane was a French manufacturer of bicycles, mopeds, motorcycles, and other small vehicles, established in 1923. “Motobécane” is a compound of “moto”, short for motorcycle; “bécane” is slang for “bike.”
Wikipedia

Videos on the Rodeocycle (all in French)

Rodéocycle Motobécane – un jouet de plus de sauvé